tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post676902191345992219..comments2023-10-15T09:36:12.013+01:00Comments on Countercultural Father: The Reform of the Liturgy 1948 - 1975Ben Trovatohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-10026998462421832672013-10-12T21:33:23.116+01:002013-10-12T21:33:23.116+01:00Father Brown,
Yes, it is very over-priced. I ha...Father Brown, <br /><br />Yes, it is very over-priced. I had thought my wife was getting me a copy for my birthday, but it came and went and all I got was socks or something.<br /><br />So I am working from a library copy: very frustrating, as I can't scribble in the margins. Sometime when she's not looking I'll buy myself one - but as you say, the prices are extortionate.Ben Trovatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-89790212049086664752013-10-12T20:29:04.266+01:002013-10-12T20:29:04.266+01:00I can`t believe the prices people are charging for...I can`t believe the prices people are charging for this book. I remember when the cathedral bookshop was selling it for a tenner. The chapter on the opposition is my favourite and I found it invaluable for researching my canon law tesina back in 92. The inconsistencies of the then CDW were very entertaining. Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-43897817257311755892013-10-11T19:34:07.860+01:002013-10-11T19:34:07.860+01:00Ttony
I hope to graduate to that: at the moment I ...Ttony<br />I hope to graduate to that: at the moment I need the 'I am reading Bugnini' support group.Ben Trovatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-10534725355938993702013-10-11T19:33:19.796+01:002013-10-11T19:33:19.796+01:00Matthew: you are well ahead of me. Glad you don...Matthew: you are well ahead of me. Glad you don't think my interpretation is too far off!Ben Trovatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-84763218976616634162013-10-11T18:19:09.315+01:002013-10-11T18:19:09.315+01:00Perhaps we ought to form an "I've read Bu...Perhaps we ought to form an "I've read Bugnini" group and offer each other counselling and after-care! Or maybe a one-off Catholic Book Club forum. (I have to fight off feelings of "We few, we happy few", however.)<br /><br />I was lucky: I bought my copy via abebooks from an American company which was clearing stock from a wholesaler: it came wrapped in the original cellophane and only (only?) cost £30 inc p&p.<br /><br />I still think of Bugnini as an archetypal bureaucrat (probably because I'm one) capabl;e of delivering whatever changes were demanded of him: if Pius XII has decided to undo all of the post-1570 reforms, Bugnini would have done it for him as easily as he did what he did.Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-90857245752770007762013-10-11T07:31:23.008+01:002013-10-11T07:31:23.008+01:00Coincidentally, I am also working my way through B...Coincidentally, I am also working my way through Bugnini's memoirs at the moment, having managed to borrow the book. (It's <i>very</i> expensive! Were you fortunate to find a cheap(ish) copy from somewhere?) Perhaps we could compare notes?<br /><br />I have just finished ch. 26, so I think I'm a little ahead of where you are, but I am in almost complete agreement with your assessments so far. The naivety and arrogance are astonishing in parts, and my wife and I have been utterly gobsmacked at some of the things contained in the book. For instance, even before the Council, there was an apparently widespread practice in Germany of lectors reading out <i>different</i> biblical passages in the vernacular while the priest read the prescribed Epistle and Gospel in Latin from the Missal (Bugnini, p. 401)? Utterly crazy! How could otherwise intelligent people think such things were a good idea? (I would love to know more about it from a historical viewpoint, though.)<br /><br />My only disagreement with you is of your assessment of the the first part of Bugnini's book as "boring". I actually found it quite interesting - but, left to my own devices, I am that sort of person, i.e. quite boring! :-)<br /><br />I look forward to your thoughts on the rest of the book!Matthew Hazellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140839291971762017noreply@blogger.com