tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post5657678933993402085..comments2023-10-15T09:36:12.013+01:00Comments on Countercultural Father: Dodgy DutchBen Trovatohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-41317736444299386282015-03-01T12:56:46.465+00:002015-03-01T12:56:46.465+00:00Yes. Another of Bugnini's asides, on which he ...Yes. Another of Bugnini's asides, on which he doesn't expand, alas, refers to difficulties in the Low Countries 'chiefly because of the special liturgical situation in the Netherlands.'Ben Trovatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299230935468606845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253865779660854699.post-20010302076784941642015-02-28T19:57:55.168+00:002015-02-28T19:57:55.168+00:00I thought I had posted on my blog, but can't f...I thought I had posted on my blog, but can't find it there, a note I had of the French—that is, the French reformers—seeing WWII as the thing that changed everything: that the experience of the priests who had shared the sufferings of those deported as forced labourers, or who had been forced to work as ordinary working men had revolutionised their view of the place of the Liturgy in the life of the faithful, and thus of the Church.<br /><br />I have speculated before that the Franco-German axis (sorry if the term is slightly unfortunate!) also reflects a post-war guilt about the fact that in neither country did the Church show clear leadership from the outset, and that this failure was somehow an inevitable result of sclerotic structures and praxis.<br /><br />You can imagine certain contemporary German clerics with a wizened smile on their faces saying "Of course we'd rather not be doing this, but it's the only way we'll be able to stop the Dutch from going far too far by themselves".<br /><br />Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.com